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It's time to get our hands dirty.

Hey, I'm Natalie Grant.

And I'm Charlotte Gamble.

And we are so excited that you are joining us for the Dare to Be podcast.

So let's talk about our kiddos today. It's funny because when we first became friends,

goodness, 13 years ago now, hard to believe. We didn't actually know that we were going to have

this shared thing in common. And that's because when I first met you, I didn't have kids yet. And I actually

didn't know even at that moment that I was going to have a hard time getting pregnant. And that's

because we both actually really went through a fertility struggle, right? Right. And I mean,

if you listened to the first podcast, which if you didn't, you can go back and click on it,

which explains a little bit

of how we met. But when we did meet, one of the things that happened soon after that was

Nat actually came over to England for her first time. And it was kind of our first time

thrown together as friends. And we really didn't know each other well at all. We were just kind

of like edging our way into this friendship. And I took her with a group of friends to some like shops in this area near where I live in England. And she was forever in this changing cubicle. And I was like, well, maybe she just takes a long time to try on outfits and I'm good with that. But it a while and I just thought you know what I just

sensed I think there's something not quite right and so I dared to kind of knock on the door

and say hey you okay in there yes and this voice kind of came back like um kind of sort of this nervous

voice right because what she didn't know was happening in that dressing room

is that, you know, my husband and I had been told that we had less than a 3%. I don't know

how they come up with one or three or five or seven, but whatever. The doctor said, hey, you guys

have less than a 3% chance of ever conceiving a child. And we had

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