Ep. 797: Paul Tough Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Michael Covel

Investing, Business

4.6 • 730 Ratings

🗓️ 13 September 2019

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

My guest today is Paul Tough, the author, most recently, of The Inequality Machine: How College Divides Us (previously titled The Years That Matter Most). His three previous books include How Children Succeed: Grit, Curiosity, and the Hidden Power of Character, which was translated into 27 languages and spent more than a year on the New York Times hardcover and paperback best-seller lists. Paul is a contributing writer to the New York Times Magazine; his writing has also appeared in the New Yorker, the Atlantic, GQ, and Esquire, and on the op-ed page of the New York Times. He is a speaker on topics including education, parenting, equity, and student success. He has worked as an editor at the New York Times Magazine and Harper’s Magazine and as a reporter and producer for the public-radio program “This American Life.” He was the founding editor of Open Letters, an online magazine.

The topic is his book The Years That Matter Most.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

With insight, humor, and passion, Paul Tough takes readers on a journey from Ivy League seminar rooms to community college welding shops, from giant public flagship universities to tiny experimental storefront colleges. Whether you are facing your own decision about college or simply care about the American promise of social mobility, The Years That Matter Most will change the way you think—not just about higher education, but about the nation itself.

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0:00.0	This is trend following radio where great thinking comes alive.
0:10.9	Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.
0:21.2	I am your host, Michael Coval, not filtered, raw, honest.
0:27.4	That's my passion.
0:33.4	My guest today is Paul Tough.
0:35.4	This is Paul's repeat appearance on the show.
0:39.4	Today we jump into a subject that I like to hint about in my monologues quite a bit.
0:45.0	His new book, The Years That Matter Most, How College Makes or Breaks Us.
0:51.8	Paul digs into all of the big issues. Does college still work? Is the system designed to just
0:59.0	protect the privileged and leave everyone else behind? Or can a college education really provide
1:05.0	opportunity to young Americans still seeking to improve their life? Paul has done a great job of pulling together the data, the stories, the insights, the narratives.
1:16.5	Ultimately, though, it will be up to you, your friends, your family, your kids, your nieces, your nephews.
1:25.1	Anyone who has to make these big decisions about college, Paul is putting it all on the table.
1:32.0	And to put it all on the table, he deserves a great round of applause, because this is a subject
1:38.5	that we're not talking about enough. Education has become for many kids just a big debt.
1:46.2	It's not the opportunity.
1:50.3	Some kids, yes, some kids know, and that's Paul's point.
1:53.6	He gets in there and gets into the nitty-gritty.
2:03.6	I hope you enjoy this conversation with Paul Tough as we dig into the years that matter most how college makes or breaks us.
2:23.2	I got to tell you, I had this visceral reaction internally once I realized the path that you were going down before I got into the specifics because I had this fear, and this is my own
2:30.2	bias playing here, I had this fear that you were going to take perhaps a side. And I really enjoyed
2:36.7	the fact that you did not take a side and you threw the entire messy mess that it is onto the
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