This is trend following radio where great thinking comes alive.

Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.

I am your host, Michael Covel, not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

If Netscape didn't go public in 1995 to start this whole revolution of online communication, online commerce, where the hell would we all be?

Maybe some of you out there would still have a job working for the man, but I sure as hell would not.

Registering my first domain name in 1996, first website in 1996.

This stuff changed me.

Watching commerce from the inception, seeing how things work, making millions and millions of dollars via connecting with people online.

This has been my life.

So I always love to hear the story of someone else running in a parallel life doing the same damn thing.

Not the exact same damn thing, but going down this twisty, curvy, nonlinear

path to get to success online. My guest today is Mike Jackness and he is the consummate

online entrepreneur. You name it, he's been involved. And he has a great perspective

for all of us on how to first think about the problem of online commerce and how to execute.

He's got the scars on his back to show and he's gained the experience that we can all learn from again

anyone that's gone down a kind of parallel path to me and has made a bloody fortune i want to talk to

them i want to learn from them and that's exactly what i get to do on this podcast. Without further delay, let me jump right into my guest today, Mike Jackness.

Mike, I was thinking in advance of this call. I had an experience back in the late 1990s,

and I want to share it with you because I think it's relevant to your experience, or at least

it connects us in some kind of way that's tangential and maybe even more directly. If I have to

search back into my memory, I made my first dollar online as a solo entrepreneur

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