Hey, I'm Janice Patelis.

And I'm Jordan Bud.

Jordan and I have spent our lives in the outdoors, both as hunters and professional guys.

And on Meet Eaters newest podcast, Gear Talk, we're taking the ultimate deep dive into the tools and gear we rely on in the field,

seeing the natural season.

We're talking classic, don't leave home without it,

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I hunted men for a living.

That's how I looked at it.

I went from hunting animals to men.

When I captured, that was my trophy on the wall.

On this episode of the Bear Geese podcast, we're going deep under cover in the rough country of southeast Ohio.

To learn about the secret lives of wildlife poachers and the life of an undercover wildlife agent by the name of RT Stewart.

He worked 18 years for the Ohio Department of Natural Resources.

He was one of the lead agents on the largest turkey poaching sting in US history.

He's a decorated law enforcement officer known for going deep undercover even years at a time in willing to do whatever it took to be.

To bust the outlaws.

And in his career, he never had a single one of his target suspects not be convicted of crimes.

If the bad guys had known him, they'd have feared him, but they didn't because he was a ghost.

We'll hear from author Chip Gross who wrote a book about RT and will interview Dr. Matthew Sharps

of California State University about the psychology of undercover agents and the personal cost that comes with living alive.

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