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The Deconstructionists

Ep 78 - Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove ”Slaveholder Religion”

The Deconstructionists

John Williamson

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.4823 Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2018

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Guest Info/Bio: This week we speak with Jonathan Wilson Hartgrove! Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove is a celebrated spiritual writer and sought-after speaker. A native of North Carolina, he is a graduate of Eastern University and Duke Divinity School. In 2003, Jonathan and his wife Leah founded the Rutba House, a house of hospitality where the formerly homeless are welcomed into a community that eats, prays, and shares life together. Jonathan directs the School for Conversion, a nonprofit that has grown out of the life of Rutba House to pursue beloved community with kids in their neighborhood, through classes in North Carolina prisons, and in community-based education around the country. Jonathan is also an Associate Minister at the historically black St. Johns Missionary Baptist Church. An evangelical Christian who connects with the broad spiritual tradition and its monastic witnesses, Jonathan is a leader in the New Monasticism movement. He speaks often about emerging Christianity to churches and conferences across the denominational spectrum and has given lectures at dozens of universities, including Calvin College, Bethel University, Duke University, Swarthmore College, St. John’s University, DePaul University, and Baylor University. Guest Published Works: Jonathan is a co-complier of the celebrated Common Prayer: A Liturgy for Ordinary Radicals, and is the author of several books on Christian spirituality, including Strangers at My Door, The Awakening of Hope, The Wisdom of Stability, and The New Monasticism. Most recently, he is the co-author, with Reverend Dr. William Barber II, of The Third Reconstruction: Moral Mondays, Fusion Politics, and the Rise of a New Justice Movement. Guest Social Media: jonathanwilsonhartgrove.com/ https://twitter.com/wilsonhartgrove https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.wilsonhartgrove/ Special guest music on this episode provided by: Kina Grannis https://www.kinagrannis.com/ https://twitter.com/kinagrannis https://www.facebook.com/kinagrannis Instagram: @kinagrannis Enjoy the songs? Songs featured on this episode were: “Oh, Father; Forever Blue; and The Fire” from the album, Elements. “When will I learn & History” from the new album, In The Waiting. Kina’s music is available on iTunes, Spotify, YouTube, and anywhere good music is found! The Deconstructionist’s Podcast is mixed and edited by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, check out our sweet t-shirt designs, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

And part of the reason that white folks in America have so little understanding of faith

0:07.0

is that we haven't been able to trust our God if we weren't in control.

0:13.0

Which is why we have to, in the American story, we have to look to the brushbores and the margins of the plantation to reconstruct and relearn the gospel.

0:27.0

Because that's where people who were not in control heard the story of Jesus,

0:32.1

heard the story about how that God had brought, you know, Israel out of Egypt before they raised that Jesus from the dead.

0:37.7

And if God can do that, then my Lord, maybe he'll even, you know, if God delivered Daniel,

0:42.1

maybe he'll even deliver me.

0:43.5

Maybe when we hear, you know, go down Moses, way down in Egypt land, maybe when we hear

0:48.9

swing low, sweet chariot coming forward to carrying home, maybe we can even have the faith

0:52.5

to run off into the woods

0:54.3

and, you know, grab Harriet and Tell them by the hand.

0:58.1

They called her Moses and never looked back,

1:00.6

just believing that this story was going to get us to freedom.

1:04.1

So that is the experience of faith that I'm trying to lean into, you know.

1:08.9

Oh, no. faith that I'm trying to lean into, you know?

1:22.9

Every day I've known,

1:29.1

it grows only deeper Oh man

1:31.3

I'm excited about this one

1:33.2

What's up everybody

1:35.5

We're the deconstructions podcast

1:39.2

Here we are

1:40.9

Deconstructing on a podcast yet again

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