I'm just sitting there waiting and all of a sudden the mackerel start coming back in on me.

And these bait balls really, really moved long distances.

And this had moved away and they had moved back.

And then they were swarming around me for protection. Hey folks, welcome to the show. I'm your host, Mason. Today we're talking to someone I met at the outdoor media summit a few weeks ago

where a bunch of people from the outdoor media just got together, had a conference,

and I met Roger.

We were drinking some athletic beer together, actually.

And we were sitting there talking.

He was telling me about spear fishing.

He was telling me stories.

And I was like, holy cow, we've got to get you on the podcast because this is incredible.

One, we've never really featured spear fishing.

And two, it's an active way to fish.

You know, I grew up fishing with like a cane pole and a bobber and, you know, just sitting there for hours at a time. Same with hunting, which, you know, was kind of boring, honestly. But it did get me outside. And I do appreciate that. But spear fishing is a totally different game. So I wanted to talk to Roger, hear more about it. There's some contact information in the show notes. If you're interested to hear any of this or get in touch with

them or get in touch with the club the fathomeres out of l a where he does most of his spear

fishing um and also before we jump in i did want to thank our most recent patrons over at patreon

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But let's go ahead and It means the world to us.

But let's go ahead and jump into the episode.

All right, folks, welcome to the adventure sports podcast. Today we're talking about something new. We don't often feature hunting and fishing and talking, telling those stories. But you know what? Today's almost a little bit of both. Roger, what do you consider spearfishing more of hunting or fishing? It's kind of both to me.

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