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with Jackie Hill Perry. So I hope you guys were able to sit and process everything in part one.

And now you get to conclude the conversation with Part 2,

and I pray that is good to you.

And I pray you enjoy the conversation.

What do you feel like is being presented as the incentive to follow Christ?

Self-aggrandizement, you know, like human potential.

So being your best self, being your optimized self, and through that self-optimization,

you getting the things that your heart desires, which is usually the world.

So it might be, and some of it is legitimate, like, you know, to, I think I've said,

a better parent, a better business person, a better, it's a better person.

But it's just like, I don't, I don't know if we were created to be better people.

I think we were created to be sacrifices.

I think we were created to be servants. I think we were created to love him and honor him. And sometimes that might mean not having a better life. I don't know. I don't know.

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