We just really wanted dogs that we could go on big camping expeditions with too, like out in the park because we live right on the edge of the park.

You know, there's no trails there.

You have to put them in yourself.

So you need dogs that are pretty big with long legs and able to break trail in that deep snow out there.

So we want a dog that could do it all.

So ours are a little bit bigger.

Yeah. We want a dog that could do it all, so ours are a little bit bigger. Hey folks, Mason here.

A couple things before we get started. It probably

sounds really different right now, my audio. That's because I'm coming from a hotel room in Estes Park,

Colorado. I'm out here for the Outdoor Media Summit where we're just meeting with folks from the

outdoor industry in media. So podcasters, bloggers,

writers, of course, journalists, all sorts of stuff. It's been awesome, sharing a lot of info

about the podcast and about athletic brewing, who I work with. And another thing is I forgot my

headphones back home. So I'm going to do this intro and listen to this episode through the speakers of my

laptop rather than through headphones, which I usually do, because that's the same experience.

You probably hear the podcast through, but I don't have my headphones with me. So if the audio is a little

off from usual, I apologize. We'll be back to our regular program on Monday. But yeah, so I'm planning to go backpacking,

and it's starting to snow here, which is kind of crazy. And I'm not sure this Florida boy can

handle the snow and backpacking right now with how cold it is getting up in the high country.

But it did get me in the mood for a winter style episode.

And so this is one of my favorite episodes we've ever done.

It's with Kristen Knight Pace.

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