You know, one of the things I've noted for my own circles is that when trust and loyalty run high,

but accountability runs low, it's like the perfect situation for abuse.

Yeah.

And I think with ministry leaders, we tend to make assumptions about the fact that they're going to conduct themselves in godly ways.

And we assume that they have healthy boundaries.

And we assume, you know, all good things about them.

And I totally understand and appreciate that.

But we are actually making higher assumptions about them than we would

of others who are working out outside of the church.

You're listening to God Hears Her, a podcast for Women, where we explore the stunning

truth that God hears you, he sees you, and he loves you

because you are his. Find out how these realities free you today on God Hears Her.

Welcome to God Hears Her. I'm Erin Eddy. And I'm Alisa Morgan. We recently had Dr. Amanda

Bankhausen on the show to talk about the rich history of women in the church and the importance of women to God.

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to be a part of this conversation, but we didn't want to pass up this opportunity.

Dr. Amanda has joined us again to talk about a topic that tends to be ignored in the church, the topic of

abuse. Her current role is as the director of safe church ministry for the Christian Reformed

Church, and she has so much insight. But before we get into the show, if you or someone you know

is being abused, there are options for help.

Call 1-800-799-7233 or visit thehotline.org.

You are not alone.

You are seen, valued, and loved.

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