Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.

I am Kate Spencer and my dearest co-host, Dorey Schifrir, is out on maternity leave,

bottling with her baby. So with us today is our guest host, they're a podcast producer of this podcast.

They are a Netflix show producer, extraordinaire. You hear their name at the end of every episode of Forever 35.

Sammy Hunio. Oh, hello. Depping in to the guest host spot here on Forever 35.

And please, before we get started, do remember that Sammy and I are not experts or just you friends.

Who like to talk a lot about serums? Oh, yeah, serum it up.

I feel like your serum is that you don't use a serum. Am I right? Yeah, no serum. We're going to dig into that.

Can't wait. I did want to mention to the audience that you call me Kate Hors.

Which I don't know if we've ever told the Forever 35 audience why that's my nickname.

Oh, you have. I have mentioned why I'm Kate Hors Spencer. Yeah. Okay, great.

Because my parents told me I could choose my own middle name and I chose horse. And then they were like, no.

And when I tell people that some people adopted as my name. I love it so much. I wrote horse like I would sign.

I have a still of a Fisher Price tape recorder that says Kate Hors Spencer.

Why tell your kid that they can choose their own middle name? Why not? And then, but then let them choose it.

And then not approve of the choice and then make them get their grandmother's first name.

Oh, yeah. It could just given me Elizabeth to begin with.

It's fair. You know, but I would like like I wonder what if you could choose your own middle name

as a kid and also now what would you choose? Oh, I don't know. That's tough.

Oh, like when I was a kid, I wanted my name in the 80s. I wanted to be like Tiffany Shannon. Sure.

Morgan, like those are the names I coveted Jordan. I like to max. Max? Yeah.

Sam Max, Hunio. Yeah. You could pull off Max. I'm sitting there. Not anymore. I like my name a lot right now.

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