Welcome to the Dear Lovejoy podcast and it's another special.

Today's guest is Dr. Julia Shaw, the first returning guest we've ever had on this podcast.

Fina's here today.

Hi, I'm very good, Tim. How are you?

I'm well, thank you.

I'm excited about meeting Dr. Julia Shaw in a minute. She's got a, she's got a, she did the memory illusion. And she educated me on how my memory is bad, but how everyone's memory is bad. We don't remember a lot of things. She, she educates the police about how when you take a statement off a witness,

invariably, there could be a lot of mistakes in it.

I'll talk to her a bit of, I'll get her to explain it again in a minute.

But yeah, a lot of what we remember, we think we remember, we haven't actually remembered correctly.

So it's fascinating.

And she's actually done, which is intriguing at the moment with a lot of the Me Too stuff.

Because obviously people are trying to remember things from sometimes decades ago.

She's actually been clever because she's got involved in an, um, uh, an app called Talk to Spot,

which is a tool to report workplace, harassment and discrimination. Uh, and you don't

have to talk to a human. You talk to her app, which is AI and it talks to you. So sounds pretty

good idea, right? That is awesome. Right. So let's find out all

about that. And I'm obviously going to ask her some other questions about the memory because

it intrigues me as well. So let's meet her. This is Dr. Julia Shaw. This is just a guide

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