Hey, welcome to another episode of the Modern War Institute podcast.

I'm John Amble, editorial director at MWI, and a while back, we had four really interesting guests come to West Point for a panel discussion on women in security.

After the event, I got the chance to sit down and continue the conversation with the four of them.

I'm Michelle Malvesti, and I'm currently professor of practice in international security studies

at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy of a Tufts University.

Michelle Schmidt, currently the Director of Intelligence for Special Operations Command.

Jan Bokner, I'm the Deputy Commanding General for Joint Task Force Ares at USAIDER Command.

Jan Easterly, I'm the managing director and global head of the Cybercution Center at Mourningstammer.

Each of these four has been remarkably successful in their careers in national security, and it would be difficult to find a group who is better positioned to talk about this topic.

In the conversation you're about to hear, they discuss some of the challenges that can face women in the military and in security-related fields more broadly.

But they also talk about the cultural changes they've witnessed throughout their careers,

the role of mentorship and their experiences on both sides of mentorship relationships,

and both the history and future of women pioneering new paths in national security.

Before we get to the conversation, just a few quick notes.

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what you hear in this episode are the views of the participants and don't represent those of

West Point, the Army, or any other agency of the U.S. government.

All right, let's get to the conversation.

Well, thank you, all four of you for taking some time to join us for this episode of

the MWI podcast.

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