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I am your host, Michael Covel.

Not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

I really love this story today.

This interview today.

I randomly was connected with my guest,

John Lynn. I did not know of John, had not heard of John. But I knew his trading style was high frequency. I knew his trading style was in the millions of a second. Now, this is past

my pay grade. I don't know anything about this. Wrapping my arms around this, very difficult.

But, and as you will see in our conversation, there was a piece of common ground.

Roughly, John and I are the same age, and he got started on the Chicago trading floors,

then migrated to Singapore, and then was right there in the catbird seat to watch Bering's Bank unfold up close and personal.

Now all these years later, John runs, as I mentioned, a successful high-frequency trading shop called Grasshopper out of Singapore.

Again, my podcast will go to the different. It will go to the outside the box. I enjoy that.

Yes, my trading perspective might come from an entirely different place than John's. But, and I think

you'll see, the commonalities, the way to think, the way to think about entrepreneurial success, John brings that to us all in a way that we can learn from.

I hope you enjoy this conversation with John Lynn. In thinking about our conversations today, you make me go back to the first moments that I started to investigate as a political science major with an MBA getting out in 1994 wanting to get onto Wall Street.

The first book I read, I think, was Liar's Poker.

So now, 1994, though, was interesting because it's kind of, I think it was like the bond

market massacre.

Nobody was hiring.

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