Ep. 728 Crypto Isn’t Dead… Why Institutions Are Still Buying with Chris Perkins
CRYPTO 101
Bryce Paul & Brendan Viehman
4.3 • 841 Ratings
🗓️ 15 June 2026
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of the Crypto 101 Podcast, Chris Perkins, incoming head of Franklin Crypto and CEO of 250 Digital Asset Management, explains why crypto’s long-term opportunity is much bigger than short-term market volatility. He breaks down how tokenization is becoming “electronification 2.0,” why the Clarity Act could unlock institutional adoption, and how clear rules may finally allow traditional finance to scale into digital assets. The conversation also covers stablecoins, market structure, AI, quantum computing, Ethereum staking benchmarks, and why institutions are still hiring and building despite the bear market. Chris argues that crypto is not going away — instead, it is becoming the infrastructure layer for 24/7 global finance.
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Chapters
00:09 - Chris Perkins joins the Crypto 101 Podcast
01:50 - From the Marines to Lehman Brothers and crypto
04:00 - Why digital assets put property rights on the internet
05:00 - Tokenization as electronification 2.0
06:55 - Why the Clarity Act matters for institutions
11:20 - What’s holding the Clarity Act back
18:10 - Why crypto and AI are complementary technologies
23:20 - Why institutions are still moving into crypto
34:00 - Rates, the Fed, and crypto market catalysts
42:50 - Ethereum staking rates and institutional benchmarks
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| 0:00.0 | All right, everybody. I hope you're having a fantastic morning, noon or night, wherever you are in the world. |
| 0:14.1 | You are certainly in the right place. You've got your host, Bryce and Brendan, joined by an incredible market practitioner today on the Crypto 101 podcast, a legend in the space. |
| 0:26.5 | Chris Perkins, who is the incoming head of Franklin Crypto, currently the CEO of 250 digital asset management. |
| 0:33.9 | Chris, we are so excited to have you on the show joining us. |
| 0:37.3 | We're going to talk about all things, current markets, what to expect with the Clarity Act and so much more. |
| 0:45.0 | But first, warm welcome. |
| 0:46.1 | How are you doing? |
| 0:47.1 | I'm doing great. |
| 0:49.7 | Markets are up or down. |
| 0:50.8 | But for those of us who've been in the space for a while, you just keep moving forward. |
| 1:11.6 | And I really appreciate you guys having me on. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. Brendan, how are you doing, my man? Good to see you. Good to see you too. I'm doing good. It's like you said, you know, we get a little bit numb to, I think, some of the, the volatility. Have you been around in the cryptospace for any period of time, you get used to it. I think that's why a lot have you been around in the crypto space for any period of time, |
| 1:16.4 | you get used to it. I think that's why a lot of us are here in the first place. So if anything, |
| 1:23.7 | the volatility excites me, but definitely a lot to talk about here today. 100%. And Chris, I'm sure that you look at the volatility and you've traded the volatility, you've |
| 1:28.2 | traded billion dollar books. We want to know a little bit about what got you into crypto. |
| 1:33.4 | I know your background at the CFTC and Lehman Brothers and all sorts of, you know, obviously |
| 1:39.6 | coin fund, another crypto fund. But get us up to speed. How did you get your start in crypto? |
| 1:45.6 | What led you from the Tradfai markets over to our side of the train tracks? |
| 1:50.4 | Yeah, I started my career in the Marines, actually. And I remember I was in Ramadi one night, |
| 1:54.2 | in the depths of the war. And I'm like, you know, I'm going to come home. And I want to be part |
| 1:59.1 | of what makes America, like, really amazing. |
| 2:01.9 | And to me, that was always innovation. |
| 2:03.9 | That was always building new things. |
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