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The Ringer NBA Show

Ep. 72: The Serge Ibaka Trade, Kevin Love's Injury, and Nikola Jokic With Kevin O'Connor

The Ringer NBA Show

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4.29.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2017

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The Ringer's Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor discuss the top 10 story lines of the NBA, including the Serge Ibaka trade (5:00), Kevin Love's injury (10:00), Mike Budenholzer backing Paul Millsap (14:00), Nikola Jokic's breakout performance (22:15), LaMarcus Aldridge's All-Star snub (34:00), the newly coined NBA G-League (41:00), and 'John Wick 2' (44:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Ring or NBA show. I'm Chris Vernon joining me. He does every Tuesday is Kevin O'Connor from theRingor.com

0:16.0

Kevin! We got trades Chris. Oh buddy. Well, what we're going to do today is we're going to go through the 10 stories of the week in the NBA.

0:24.0

And even when we were meeting up this morning, they rapidly changed. In fact, number one and number two on our list both got added this morning.

0:32.0

So let's start it off with number one, which is the trade that goes down this morning as reported by Adrian Wojłewski.

0:38.0

Serge Baka, who had been rumored to possibly be moved to maybe they thought maybe the Raptors, maybe the heat or some of the names that were out there.

0:47.0

He did in fact get moved to the Raptors. Serge Baka to Toronto for a for Terrence Ross and a first round pick in the upcoming NBA draft.

0:58.0

I hate this trade Kevin. I hate it for Orlando. For Orlando. Yes. I mean, how did they listen man? This is what ends up happening.

1:09.0

We know they had tamed. I hated the first Baka trade, which is all the depot in the 11th pick in the draft and Ursonella Silva.

1:17.0

So now they have basically turned all the depot.

1:21.0

Uh, so bonus. That was the pick and Ursonella Silva into Terrence Ross and of what a 20 something draft pick.

1:31.0

2017. So it's this year. That's pathetic. Look, they screwed it up. They did screw up.

1:37.0

They screwed up last year by trading trading for E. Baka and all the people in the first trading old depot in the deal for E. Baka in the first place.

1:45.0

So I look at this for them as like, okay, we screwed up time to get what we can for a guy who's going to become a free agent this summer.

1:53.0

So in that sense, I mean, look, it's not great. But Terrence Ross is at least locked up for another two years at a low value.

1:59.0

So you get a guy for two more years while you're in your whatever phase you're in. It's hard to tell if they're rebuilding or if they're trying to make the playoffs or what based on their moves that they've done the past two years.

2:11.0

But I think I think they just need to go in a full rebuild man. And I think hopefully for them, E. Baka trading him for this package is a start of that. But this is great for Toronto though.

2:19.0

What do you mean a full rebuild? Let me rebuild it for 10 years.

2:23.0

Yeah, but I know. Look, that's the thing though is it's I liked what they were doing up until really last summer. Up until last summer when they traded for E. Baka, it's like, what are they doing?

2:35.0

Why are they making this push all of a sudden goals of the playoffs? It's like, take the slow rebuild. And they went away from that. And I think that ultimately has really hurt them.

2:45.0

They had, they had, they had all the depot. They had Evan for EA. They had Vousavitch, right? Like and then they go and they get beyond bow and Jeff Green and surge at pocket like they think they're instincts.

2:57.0

All right, they are clueless. They are clueless. They go and they get, you know, Frank Vogel in the offseason. And so I suppose they then decide, okay, we want to win now. Right? Cause Frank Vogel, it's not like he was without offers. He could have coach probably multiple different places.

3:14.0

Memphis included, but they probably sat him down and was like, okay, we're going to go for this. And so they go and they signed Bionbo. They give Evan for EA the huge contract. They go and signed Jeff Green to elude a Chris contract.

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