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Young Heretics

Ep. 72: My Redeemer Lives

Young Heretics

Spencer Klavan

Society & Culture, Education

4.94.5K Ratings

🗓️ 28 September 2021

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

How can a good and just God allow suffering? The Book of Job is where the Old Testament looks this question squarely in the face. In this episode of Young Heretics, Spencer Klavan discusses this masterwork of wisdom literature, drawing out lessons for patience in suffering that go beyond happy talk and nihilism.

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Transcript

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But as for me, I know that my Redeemer liveeth,

0:05.5

and that he will witness at the last upon the dust,

0:10.0

and when after my skin this is destroyed,

0:14.8

then without my flesh shall I see God."

0:23.0

Well, hopefully you recognize those words.

0:26.0

There's some of the most famous words in the Hebrew Bible,

0:29.5

which is to say the Old Testament, if you're a Christian,

0:33.5

and they've been sent to music, and they've been repeated again and again.

0:37.0

They come from the book of Job.

0:40.0

I said last week when we were talking about Republic Book 2,

0:43.5

that this question of theodicy, that is how a good and just God

0:49.5

can allow evil to happen or can allow bad things to happen to good people.

0:54.0

That question is central to all thinking societies,

0:58.0

and that the Greek approach to it, which was essentially to reason one's way

1:02.5

to the ideal and trust that God is those ideals,

1:07.5

is different from the scriptural approach to it,

1:11.0

which is more empirical and more mysterious.

1:13.5

The Bible's approach is to look at the suffering and the horror of the world,

1:18.5

and acknowledge and false silent in some sense before the mystery of it.

1:23.5

Doesn't mean we don't have doctrinal theological answers to these questions,

1:28.0

Christians believe, as I've said many times before on the show,

1:30.5

that mankind is depraved by original sin,

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