It may look like me, it may taste like me, but it's not me. It's a podcast. Welcome to the

off menu podcast, James. Hello, yeah, James A cast to you, mate. Yeah, I'm in James A

cast, but I don't ever actually show you a talking to me. Look, there's no other

James in the room. It's just me, Ed Gamble, you James A. Cast and the great bonito. Oh,

I thought his name was James. No, no, no, just the great bonito is his real name. Okay.

Welcome to the off menu podcast, the food podcast where we ask a special guest, James,

the flavor ever starter, main course dessert, side dish and drink and this week from Los Angeles

California, as in like that's where we recorded. Yeah. We have got a very special guest, Michael

McKinne. So excited to have Michael McKinne in the dream restaurant. You will of course

know Michael McKinne's work, James. Oh, he is a hero of mine. This is Spinal Tap. I've

gone on record many times in many publications saying it's my favorite comedy film of all

time. Maybe even just my favorite film of all time. Well, you're correct. That's the objective

truth. Yeah, I've said it a lot and I can't believe I'm micr... Oh, yeah, you've seen

Michael McKinne and Los Alstaf is in better call Saul at the minute. Yeah. I mean, I don't

think he might even hold the world record for most cameos in TV series, history. Do you

think? Ah, so many great cameos by Michael McKinne over the years. Well, we could ask him

about that. There will be too busy asking him about his dream restaurant menu. Now, unfortunately

James, even though he is definitely a hero to both of us and had such a wonderful career

and there's an absolute legend in the game, we will be forced to kick him out of the restaurant

if he says a secret ingredient. Absolutely, Ed. And this week's secret ingredient is goat

smell. Goat smell. It tastes weird. Yeah, I think I've had it that much. Yeah, I say, Joe, what?

We're moving to what everyone's trying to be more eat less meat now, eat less animal

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