The Tom Woods Show, episode 717.

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Ron Paul homeschool.com. Hello everybody, Tom Woods here. I'm telling you this episode is going to

help you win debates. It's going to help you when you're cornered

and the inevitable question comes up. What about Sweden? What about Denmark? And so on and so forth.

Well, today we're joined by Nima Sanandaji, who is author of the brand new book released just this week,

debunking utopia, exposing the myth of Nordic socialism. You can find it linked

on our show notes page, tomwoods.com slash 717. Neema, welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you very

much. Before we get started on the details of your argument, tell us something about your own background, because I think that

is relevant to your story. Yeah, so my background, I'm a Kurdish-Iranian, and I came with

my family to Sweden as a child. And like many immigrants, when we came to Sweden, we were

trapped in welfare dependency.

So although my father and mother had successful jobs in Iran, they became dependent on the

welfare state in Sweden. And so we grew up in a, you know, marginalized welfare state family,

welfare support family.

Later, I got a PhD, and I've been working on public policy issues.

I've written more than 100 public policy reports and around 20 books,

mostly about the situation in Sweden, Nordics, and other parts of Northern Europe. So that's my background. And I'm the president of the European Center for Entrepreneurship and Policy Reform. All right. Okay, very good,

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