I am on a change. What about you?

So welcome back to On a Shame. We're still missing Jace. It makes for a much quieter set.

When he's not here, but he's been off to New York, getting tales and meeting people and what they've been doing in New York.

So when he gets back, we'll have, I'm sure a lot of stuff from J. So we have in his chair, a family member.

I used to say you're half Robertson, but then some Zach reminded me that we're all half-row.

Well, Zach's been using my material, actually.

You said that first. Okay. So this is John Gimber, my first cousin.

And it's like my little brother, like another little brother, because when I was working on my testimony back in the day,

I went off to New Orleans, sort of liked the young man in Luke 15.

And didn't quite have a plan for my life, but didn't want to be here because I wasn't living the right way.

And so I went down and got a job in New Orleans.

And I live with John and his family.

And my aunt Judy, whose dad was dad's older sister, she's been passed away a few years now.

Since 2006, almost there'd be 17 years this time.

That's unbelievable. 17 years. And so she got cancer.

And anyway, she was a big part of my life.

I mean, not just because of that era, but always.

She was super fun. She loved Ella.

She loved Ella. So it was because of her and my uncle Harold, dad's older brother, who also loved Ella.

She that me and Jason Willie became such huge fans because dad didn't go school there.

And I mean, I guess it was state school, that's you kind of halfway supported.

But I mean, you didn't, you weren't passionate about it, but they were passionate about it.

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