Ep. 702: How To Argue About Hunting and Fishing Like A Lawyer with Jefferson Fisher

The MeatEater Podcast

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Sports, Wilderness

4.9 • 37.5K Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2025

⏱️ 119 minutes

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Summary

Steven Rinella talks with Jefferson Fisher, Ryan Callaghan, Brody Henderson, Spencer Neuharth, Randall Williams, Corinne Schneider, and Phil Taylor.

Topics discussed: How to communicate in tricky hunting and fishing scenarios; Jefferson’s book, “The Next Conversation: Argue Less, Talk More”; sharing the same literary agency; "How to Argue Like A Lawyer"; chainsaw accidents and backing in so you can get out quickly later; “I’m always around but now always there”; courtroom tactics and how you don’t want teachers on the jury; Cal’s bench warrant for arrest; tons of advice on how to navigate tricky hunting and fishing situations well; “but” deletes everything after it and leading with “no”; and more.

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