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Thank you. any specific organization unless otherwise stated. Hello, friends, and welcome back to the Latter Day Lives podcast.

My name is Sean Rupier.

I am your host and welcome to episode seven of the podcast.

We're really excited, got a great show for you.

Before we jump into the show this week, I've had a lot of people who have asked about podcasts,

and I really appreciate friends who have kind of, we're their first podcast.

They've asked kind of, how do you find podcasts and whatnot?

And I know there are people who are looking for more great content.

So I want to push two other podcasts if you enjoy good LDS conversation.

One of them is Leading LDS.

You can search for it in all the same places, wherever you get your podcast.

Leading LDS is a podcast run by Kurt Frankum, who has become a friend and a mentor for me,

and he is just fantastic.

And it's really focused on leadership.

And any kind of leadership within the church, I would say even if you're not in a leadership position,

you would really enjoy it.

But he employs techniques and interviews people to make better leaders.

That's his whole mission and it is fantastic. So that's the leading LDS podcast. And today we were

driving home from St. George, Utah, up to Lyndon, Utah, where we live. And we listened to the

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