Ep. 69: The Agony of Mercy
Young Heretics
Spencer Klavan
4.9 • 4.5K Ratings
🗓️ 7 September 2021
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
How do we put blood guilt to rest? It isn't pretty. In this episode of Young Heretics, Spencer Klavan walks through the conclusion of Aeschylus' Oresteia and traces the ideas it conveys throughout Western history. In the end, the question is not "what are we owed," but, "how can we live?"
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| 0:00.0 | This is going to be a very casual and low-key episode because we're just going to solve one of the fundamental problems of human existence. |
| 0:11.0 | We are now at the last of the three plays of Eskilis or Astias. |
| 0:17.0 | 458 BC. We've been tracking this trilogy masterwork really of three plays that were performed at the city of Dianisia. |
| 0:26.0 | We've been tracking it in terms of this question about blood guilt that human life wraps us up into this kind of cycle of history and recrimination that we are currently on the brink of again. |
| 0:39.0 | This is something that we thought that we had settled in this country and in the west more generally that we do not punish the sons for the sins of the father. |
| 0:50.0 | But now, more and more, people are starting to go back into these old ways, these primal attitudes, these ancient attitudes that you need to punish the next generation for what happened in the past. |
| 1:02.0 | Those attitudes are now resurfacing and so it seems like a good time to take a look at the west's great solutions to this problem. |
| 1:09.0 | I think it's really contained in this play and I'm going to talk today about how the cycle of blood guilt gets resolved in a way that does not involve, say, reparations, which is what we're currently talking about or other nastier things, |
| 1:24.0 | ways of working out past conflict with punishment in the present. |
| 1:29.0 | But instead basically ends this cycle of violence. I'm going to look at how that happens in the orastia and then I'm going to talk about the legacy of that idea throughout history. |
| 1:41.0 | And I'm finally going to talk about why the Greek answer kind of poses this new problem, which is kind of resolved by Christ's sacrifice on the cross. |
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| 3:10.0 | So just to recap us, right, we've had the agamemnon, which tells the story about agamemnon coming home from Troy and getting murdered by his wife, Clyde Mnestra, and her adulterous lover, a gistless. |
| 3:21.0 | There are a number of reasons why they do that. But you know, one of the main ones that I talked about was the sacrifice of if a genia. |
| 3:27.0 | There's this long cycle going way back before agamemnon and Clyde Mnestra of child sacrifice of child murder. |
| 3:34.0 | And basically the house of atrius is just cursed to kind of live this thing out. Then in the lightvation bears, which is the second play, arrestes agamemnon son comes home and avenges himself by killing Clyde Mnestra. |
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