Ep 69 - Abolish Justice Hubs w/ Nadja Guyot

This Wreckage

Sean KB and AP Andy

Music, Arts

4.2 • 970 Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2019

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Two years ago, prison abolitionists succeeded in convincing the government of the city of New York to agree to close the torturous jail on Rikers Island. The solution? A kinder, friendlier, "neighborhood" jail in each borough! With a decisive city council vote coming up, prison abolitionist Nadja Guyot from No New Jails joins us to talk about the fight against these absurd "Justice Hubs," decarceration, and practical abolitionism.

https://www.nonewjails.nyc/

https://twitter.com/nadjaguyot

https://twitter.com/nonewjails_nyc

Notes:

Rebranding Mass Incarceration: The Lippman Commission and Carceral Devolution in New York City Zhandarka Kurti & Jarrod Shanahan: https://search.proquest.com/openview/7f95de7b70ab31d0f92c51bc61ade9df/1.pdf?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=48122

A Jail to End all Jails: https://urbanomnibus.net/2017/12/jail-end-jails/

Justice Hubs: https://www.citylab.com/equity/2017/07/designing-the-opposite-of-rikers/533361/

Kalief Browder: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/24/nyregion/kalief-browder-settlement-lawsuit.html

Closing song: Lil Wayne - Light Up (Rikers version)

Transcript

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Antifada where unrest is best. I'm Jamie Peck. I'm Andy the producer. And we are going to get to our
0:17.0	interview in a minute with an organizer from No New Jails, NYC, and talk about all of the really good stuff they're doing within a prison
0:26.4	abolitionist framework.
0:29.3	And we do raise the Gulag question. Mm-hmm.
0:33.0	I wish I had a button to press like Sam does when someone says something like that and it's like
0:38.2	that the dramatic music.
0:40.0	Yeah, it's like a little snippet of the Soviet National Anthem.
0:44.3	Yes exactly we really got to get some sound drops in in effect here.
0:49.1	I don't want to steal Matt Lex thunder too much though but I just wanted to make a little addendum to our I don't even know how long ago this was now
0:59.5	So it's like totally stale, but whatever where when I talked about my trip to LA
1:05.1	My mind was still so scrambled from my trip down the hallways of always in the desert that I forgot to mention I saw saw the cure, which is like very on brand for a
1:15.2	God socialist to do.
1:17.2	But you know, we've all seen the cure multiple times.
1:20.0	So what was special about this time seeing the cure?
1:23.3	I mean, I had never seen the cure before.
1:26.9	I definitely cried a lot during,
1:29.7	just like heaven, I would say on a scale from 1 to 10, it was maybe an 11.
1:35.0	And it was really great to finally see them.
1:37.0	They sounded really good.
1:38.0	So Rob Smith was on point, and I don't know how much longer they're going to be a band so it was really good that I got to see them despite
1:46.0	Seeing them at one of those shitty giant festivals
1:49.2	It took me so long in fact I was coming back from Tijuana that day and the line was so
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