Ep. 689 Tokenization & How Institutions are Looking at Altcoins with Superstate's Jim Hiltner
CRYPTO 101
Bryce Paul & Brendan Viehman
4.6 • 821 Ratings
🗓️ 7 November 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Bryce and Brendan interview Jim Hiltner of SuperState, who explains how tokenization is redefining finance by merging traditional markets with blockchain infrastructure. He discusses the success of SuperState’s $1.5B in AUM across its tokenized funds and how institutions like BlackRock and Fidelity are beginning to integrate similar technology. The conversation covers macroeconomic uncertainty, the U.S.–China trade tensions, and why altcoins are lagging behind major assets like Bitcoin and Ethereum. Hiltner concludes that tokenization isn’t killing crypto’s revolutionary spirit—it’s empowering individuals to control their assets 24/7 while preparing traditional finance for an on-chain future.
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Chapters
00:00 — Intro
03:14 — Jim’s background: from CitiBank to Compound Treasury and launching SuperState.
06:56 — Overview of SuperState’s funds (USTB & USCC) and the rise of tokenized assets.
09:22 — Macro discussion: Fed rate cuts, inflation trends, and gold vs. Bitcoin performance.
14:51 — U.S.–China tariff tension and crypto market reaction to geopolitical shocks.
18:11 — The U.S. government shutdown’s impact on regulation and SEC progress.
22:12 — The state of altcoins and why institutional investors focus on majors like BTC, ETH, and SOL.
28:48 — Deep dive into USTB and USCC fund mechanics and yields.
37:01 — Opening Bell initiative: tokenizing public equities and transforming traditional markets.
47:04 — Debate on whether crypto’s revolutionary ethos is fading or evolving through tokenization.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Crypto 101 podcast presented by Gemini, your bridge to the future of money. |
| 0:10.0 | All right, everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Crypto 101 podcast. You guys know me. I'm your co-host, Bryce. |
| 0:22.3 | As always, joined by my good buddy, my good buddy, Brendan Veman. How are you doing, Brendan? |
| 0:27.4 | I'm doing good, man. I'm doing good. I've got one eye on the charts over here as Bitcoin's |
| 0:34.0 | dipping below 100. I'm going to be like the guy from Waterboy, like eyes on both crazy eyes. |
| 0:40.6 | Yeah, yeah. |
| 0:41.4 | Or anger management or whatever that movie was |
| 0:43.2 | because I've got like a lot of tabs open right now |
| 0:46.1 | as Bitcoin is flirting with 100K |
| 0:48.8 | for the first time. |
| 0:51.5 | Let's see, let's go back for, I don't know, Jim. |
| 0:53.5 | How long has it been since Bitcoin |
| 0:55.3 | has been 100K? June 22nd, June 22nd. That's crazy. We've got a great guest today. Mr. Jim |
| 1:06.0 | Hiltner, chief business officer as well as co-founder of Super State. |
| 1:17.8 | Like Tebow was kind of teasing before the show, thanks for actually showing up on a bloody Tuesday. |
| 1:23.0 | Because most people, when the markets are crashing, they just reschedule the crypto podcast. |
| 1:24.4 | But you're a real one. |
| 1:25.4 | So we appreciate it. |
| 1:26.3 | It's all right, man. |
| 1:32.9 | You know, we've got a couple of funds that are relatively insulated from the markets. And it's been nice as an investor in some of those to kind of sit and wait out a little bit of the volatility. |
| 1:39.4 | And so on a personal level, yeah, I've been definitely watching the screens, but on a business level, continue to move up into the right. So, you know, we're not, we're not actively trading, except for the PA over here. And while that's a little bit painful to watch on the sidelines, you know, I take a long-term view on everything. And so don't really necessarily worry about all the noise. And yeah, there's a lot to dig into on that front because it's quite an exciting time in the markets, |
| 2:04.1 | whether it's on the crypto side, macro side, and what's happening in tokenization. |
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