This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive.

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I am your host, Michael Covel.

Not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

A guest today is Augustine Fuentes.

He's an American primatologist and biological anthropologist.

His work focuses largely on human and non-human primate interaction,

pathogen transfer, communication, cooperation, and human social evolution.

And there is absolutely no reason under the sun that yours trussing cooperation, and human social evolution.

And there is absolutely no reason under the sun that yours truly one Michael Covel should be interviewing Augustine today, but I am and I'm lucky as hell to go down this path.

Augustine's newest work, the creative spark, how imagination made humans exceptional.

Imagination, creativity, cooperation.

Across the millennia.

How did us little old homo sapiens evolve?

What was going on to get us to this point? Yeah, that's a huge

question. And there's no simple answer and it's not short. It's not sweet. There's a lot of

starts and stops. There's a lot of creativity. There's a lot of cooperation.

Going back millions of years.

We often get so preoccupied with our modern lives.

And look, this is the deal.

We only live one time, at least until they figure out this life extension stuff. But to look at the work of somebody like Augustine and his book is absolutely fabulous.

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