You know, you always come back to that, it's the individual.

Training is not formulaic.

You know, for some reason, like beginner runners think, you just get the chart out of

the magazine, you print it, put it on your refrigerator, and that's my training program

for the next 12 weeks.

And I, no, that's not the best way to improve, it's very individualized, ideally it's

individualized.

Welcome to the Trailhead of Trailrunner Nation.

We go on virtual trail runs alongside captivating guests who share stories and wisdom and information,

scientific sometimes, that will help us improve as runners and maybe as people.

This one will make us not only better runners, but people for sure, we're talking to Joe

Freel and Durk Freel about all the wearables and the information we grab from them.

How can that make us better runners?

We're going to find out today.

And just as a little bit of a disclaimer, Joe Freel, who is a legend in endurance sports,

we were only able to get him on the phone so the audio quality isn't quite the way that

we prefer it to be.

But he's a legend, what he tells us is important.

So pay attention because he's going to drop us some golden nuggets.

I drink AG1 literally every day in the morning, I've had it in the afternoon, and I've even

had it in the evening because it makes me feel good.

First thing I do in the morning is I get out of bed and I make two bottles of AG1, one

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