The Tom Woods Show, episode 650.

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Hi, everybody, Tom Woods here. We're talking about fascism today. How can you not be interested

in that topic? And we're talking about it with Paul Gottfried, the author of a brand new book,

Fascism, The Career of a Concept. Paul's been a guest on the show numerous times, and we've

talked about fascism together before. So I'm going to link to all those episodes, including the one on

fascism, at tomwoods.com slash 650. I'll also be linking to his book. Paul is retired from Elizabethtown College,

where he was a professor of humanities. He was also a Guggenheim recipient, and he holds his PhD from

Yale University. Stay tuned after my conversation with Paul because I have a few announcements

that I think you will find interesting.

All right. Paul Godfried, welcome to the show.

Well, thank you for having me again.

You know, we've spoken several times in the past one time on the subject of fascism before your book came out.

But now here it is, fascism, the career of a concept. I'm holding it in my hand. I read it.

And now I've got a whole fresh batch of questions for you about fascism. Why don't we start with, I mean, of course, part of the book is dealing with different approaches to fascism, different definitions of fascism. What would be a definition of fascism? If you had to define it in terms of its identifying characteristics, what would

be a definition that would satisfy you?

Well, one that would satisfy me would have to begin by contextualizing the phenomenon,

that fascism is an interwar European movement that develops most fully in Latin Catholic

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