EP 65 - Shauna Niequist: Embracing the Unknown, Healing from Hurt, and Staying Curious

The Paula Faris 'Faith & Calling' Podcast

AccessMore

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, Talk Radio

4.4 • 697 Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2022

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

If you’re in a season of chaos, change or loss, this week’s episode is a must-listen. Shauna Niequist is here and she’s offering up a spark of hope and an extra dose of courage for anyone needing a reminder that even when everything seems lost – peace and goodness are still possible. And who of us couldn’t use that reminder right now? Shauna is the New York Times bestselling author of Cold Tangerines, Bittersweet, Bread & Wine, Savor and Present Over Perfect. Her trademark writing is honest, gentle and loving, and her latest book, “I Guess I Haven’t Learned That Yet”, is no exception. In this episode Paula and Shauna unpack the heart of the book, which was written during a season of major upheaval for Shauna. They discuss what happened when four years ago Shauna’s life in suburban Chicago was flipped upside down, leading her family of four to move to New York City. In making a midlife move and leaving behind the life she had always imagined, Shauna recalls being forced to learn how to “stop romanticizing what was and start embracing what is.” Hear why they made the move, why she says she now realizes it was actually long overdue and how she opened herself up to discover new ways of living when the old ways stopped working. Shauna says one of the hardest changes she was faced with in moving was leaving the church she had always been a part of. She opens up to Paula about the painful process that involved forgiving and apologizing and offers up her empathy and wisdom for those in strained situations who are lacking closure but continue to seek it. Hear why she says “it’s ok to not understand it all at once” and how she learned to embrace “the long road back to healing.” Paula and Shauna also discuss how change is simply unavoidable, the importance of taking care of your health in each season and why, through it all, there’s power and magic in simply saying, “I don’t know… I guess I haven’t learned that yet.” Check out Shauna’s new book: “I Guess I Haven’t Learned That Yet” Follow Shauna on Instagram Learn more about Paula’s new company CARRY Media and sign up for CARRY ALL, an essential weekly newsletter for the working mom that drops every Sunday! Follow along with CARRY Media on social media: @carry_media Connect with Paula & share what you are feeling called to in this season of your life: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook Sign up for Paula’s new and improved newsletter to get a message from her every two weeks. Order Paula’s Book - “Called Out: Why I Traded Two Dream Jobs for a Life of True Calling” Subscribe & Listen to more episodes of the Podcast: AccessMore | Spotify | Apple

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0:00.0	Access More. Hi friends, it's Paula Ferris. You might remember me from Good Morning America or The View.
0:09.7	It's okay if you don't, but I have a new view now. My husband and I moved to South Carolina with our three kids,
0:16.2	and I'm exploring new seasons of calling. Each week I'm joined by friends to have real, honest conversations about their stories,
0:24.7	their struggles and triumphs, all to encourage and empower you.
0:28.7	We're going to be talking about what people are called to do and who they're called to be.
0:33.2	I welcome you in to the Paula Ferris Faith and Calling podcast.
0:38.5	Hi, friends, welcome back to the podcast.
0:40.6	So I had a great time in New York City last week talking all things, Carrie Media,
0:46.0	which is my new entrepreneurial venture to tell the stories of the working mom to enact change.
0:51.9	So I was on GMA.
0:53.9	I was on Fox and Friends, I was on The View.
0:56.2	If you want to know what a 180 feels like, try doing Fox and Friends in the morning and then going
1:02.1	to the view. It was quite the juxtaposition. But what an experience. And thank you for your
1:08.6	prayers. I was admittedly nervous. And there was this voice in my head that kept saying, Paula, you have nothing to say. But I kept going back to that conversation I had a couple weeks ago with Benjamin and Kirsten Watson. And Benjamin said, if you hear that voice that you have nothing to say, that's because you do have something to say. So I just tried to claim that and step into the space. And thanks again for your support.
1:32.5	And New York, well, it's a common thread in this week's episode. Because if there's one
1:37.4	consistent in life, it's that things change. Our circumstances, our surroundings, our
1:42.5	relationships, all of it. It changes. You guys know I essentially
1:46.0	blew my life up a couple years ago, leaving New York City, leaving the world of television,
1:50.5	moving to this small town in South Carolina with my husband and three kids. And today,
1:55.3	I'm talking with someone who has navigated change and tragedy when she says her whole world fell apart.
2:01.8	I hold on to that idea over and over again.
2:04.6	I got evicted from the life I thought I would lead.
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