This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive.

Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.

I am your host, Michael Covel, not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

Before I jump into my guest today, I have a request, a simple little request.

If you like this podcast, go to iTunes and write a review.

I would most appreciate that.

It kind of keeps the whole thing going, the process keeps me going.

Now, I just noticed, actually, the most recent review on iTunes. It's pure gold. I'm

already laughing. It's pure gold. So I'm at what, 600 plus episodes, six Nobel Prize winners,

legendary traders, you name it I've talked to. It's a lot of work since 2012. The most recent review, this is just absolutely gold.

I want to get a tattoo. I have no tattoos, but I want to get a tattoo of this review.

The subject heading. So bad. Ranting nonsense. The review. This is brutal. This guy has issues and uses this podcast as a therapy session. Pure, pure garbage.

Oh, my God. That is just absolutely awesome. Don't you know that I probably know that person, right?

It's somebody in my world and they're offended by something I did and that's their way they get

back at me, which, of course, leads me to the discussion of the mind. I mean, it doesn't really lead me to the discussion of the mind,

but the most important thing today is my guest.

I mean, it's funny that someone wrote a review like that

because here is the counter to that review.

My guest today, Alison Gopnik,

she's an American professor of psychology and

affiliate professor of philosophy at the University of California, Berkeley. She's known for her work

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