Welcome to the Gritty podcast. I am your host Brian call and I'm joined today by my brother the Gritty Bromine

Behind the camera. How are you Brent? Oh, well, thank you. So today's podcast is with Jim Heffelfinger and Jim has been on the podcast before

He's a good friend of ours

He is the wildlife science coordinator at Arizona game and fish and I just returned

From that hunt I did in Arizona, which was epic

It was it was pretty awesome. I came home with a nice buck which I've talked about a little bit and I wanted to sit down with Jim

and do a little podcast on the conditions we encounter down there because it was like all-time drought

nasty totally different than any time we've been there before I

Wanted to get his take on the drought on the why why didn't we see more big bucks?

What about the the weather

That impacted the the deer behavior because that was kind of shocking and I wanted to know

About the deer's the deer the diet because we saw more cactus consumption than I've ever seen before like

nasty spiky gnarly cactus from cane choy

jumping choi

barrel cactus the deer were just hammering at all

Any kind of cactus consumption is alarming to me right right? I thought that's the reason why cactus had spines

Yeah, and all the deer their behavior in your water totally different year than I've ever experienced

So I wanted to bounce all that off with Jim. I also wanted to talk to him about

Arizona's over the counter setup with like unlimited tags for resident non-resident

Not you know everybody gets to throw their name in the hat roll the dice go get a tag and go and see what you can

accomplish and

You you have people saying that's wrong. That's wrong. That's wrong. You need to limit. You need to do quotas

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