All right folks, welcome to the Gritty Podcast. I'm your host Brian Call and today my guest is Tony Bynum and

Tony

Tony you're a photographer you've been and and filmer. Do you do film you do film work as well?

I I think I came across you like seven years ago or so in six years ago Instagram

I saw a lot of your photo your photography work and

And but I wanted to have you as a guest on the podcast because I wanted to get into this commercial filming

Permit the laws and the history here and a number of people reached out to me and said you need to talk to Tony

Strangers on Instagram

Some people I know within the industry some people who have received citations and fines

for filming without permits and

and

So as I dug into this and started to learn more about it, you know you and I actually stumbled across paths just the other day through

Instagram and here we are so

Can you get folks a little introduction and kind of set some parameters over what this discussion is about?

Sure sure. Well, yeah, well, thanks. Thanks for

Thanks for having me on and

Yeah, I even my comment on Instagram the other day might have been a little bit harsh

But I do tend to when it comes to permitting I do kind of like to jump right to the issue for me like there's a lot of

Variables in this discussion or can be and in the history of it even and so where I sort of was introduced to the whole issue was

as a member of the professional outdoor media association and

On the board of directors. I'm now the president and for the past say 15 years I suppose we've been as an organization

You know participating in developing the discussion and crafting the discussion and even helping with build some legislation to

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