Wow, Wow, Wes.

All right, we're live.

David Stewart, thank you for coming, man.

Thanks for having me.

I'm pumped, man. I've never met an archaeologist before. Well, yeah, it's a fun job, I got to say. Do you like it to play in the dirt? Absolutely. I love it. When I was a kid, I decided that was what I wanted to do, you know. And I'm really lucky because I can do it as a, you know, grown up.

Yeah.

Well, your parents are both archaeologists too.

Yeah.

My dad and my mom were both archaeologists and worked for National Geographic in the magazine, you know, back in the heyday of all of that.

So, you know, they took us on trips,

me and my brothers and sister. You know, that's how I got exposed to this stuff, was like going to,

you know, Mexico and Guatemala, you know, back in the 70s, getting, getting exposed to these

fantastic ruins before they were turned into big turocytes. Yeah, yeah. And I just caught the bug. I mean, I just wanted to do more about it and seeing what my dad was doing, what my mom was doing. I just wanted to keep on with that. Nice. Yeah, I mean, we, by the way, too, we have, we have vow with us here today. Josh couldn't make it.

Josh is actually getting, I believe, a colonoscopy. Very important. Someone's doing some, someone's doing some excavating in his butt. Oh, there is. He's asleep right now. And someone's looking for secrets in his butt, deciphering the text. That's pretty cool, though, man. So like, you know, and from reading your book, by the way, the Four Heavens, I have it right here. History, a new history, a new history of the ancient I, not the old, not the BS from before. That's right. Yeah. But from reading your book, it was like back, I guess when your dad was doing it, it was kind of amazing. I didn't realize how much of,

you know, their history was completely unknown and lost. And I guess there was like little bits and pieces. That kind of struck me about how people were just like, even the people who

live there were just like, I don't know, like no one really knew. And this is still kind of the

case in terms of people's awareness, right?

So I think it's fair to say it's new in in terms of not being out there in the public arena.

And certainly in Mexico, you know, there are plenty of Maya people around today, but they don't have much of a sense of their own history.

Yeah.

And I find that really sad and something that needs to be fixed and corrected.

So there's a Spanish edition coming out, you know, and I hope word gets out about this stuff

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