Ep. 610 – Lessons from the Bardo with Ann Tashi Slater, Author & Literary Scholar

Mindrolling with Raghu Markus

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🗓️ 5 September 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Raghu Markus and Ann Tashi Slater dive into The Tibetan Book of the Dead, bardo states, and how embracing death and impermanence can help us live with greater presence and purpose.

Pick up a copy of Ann's September 2025 book, Traveling in Bardo: The Art of Living in an Impermanent World.

This week on Mindrolling, Raghu and Ann discuss:

The Tibetan Book of the Dead and how it can help us in modern Western culture
Bardo states: the in-between, liminal spaces between death and rebirth, birth and death.
How we regularly experience metaphorical death through the impermanence of relationships, identities, and moments
Accepting the reality of death and impermanence to avoid struggle and suffering
Finding grace in life-lessons and why Ram Dass initially thought his guru gave him the stroke
Ann’s Tibetan lineage and strong connection to her grandmother
Ensuring that we are living in alignment with the things we care most about
Why reflecting on death while alive can lead to more conscious, intentional living
Maintaining traditions as a way to accept reality, process grief, and find meaning in loss
Recognizing our interdependence and having compassion for other people

Check out the film The Tibetan Book of the Dead: A Way of Life, narrated by Leonard Cohen

About Ann Tashi Slater:

Ann Tashi Slater has written for The New Yorker, The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Paris Review, Tin House, Guernica, AGNI, Granta, and many others. Her work has been featured in Lit Hub and included in The Best American Essays. In her Darjeeling Journal column for Catapult, she writes about her Tibetan family history and bardo, and she blogged for HuffPost about similar topics. She presents and teaches workshops at Princeton, Columbia, Oxford, Asia Society, and The American University of Paris, among others, and was a regular speaker at NYC’s Rubin Museum of Art during the museum's 20-year run. You can learn more about Ann and sign up for her newsletter at http://www.anntashislater.com. And learn more about Ann's new book, Traveling in Bardo: The Art of Living in an Impermanent World, here.

“The really fundamental lesson of the bardo teachings is that awareness of impermanence allows us to actually, counterintuitively, find the happiness that we’re looking for. When we struggle against it, we make ourselves miserable because there’s nothing we can do to change it. Things end.” – Ann Tashi Slater

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Hey, everyone. It's Ragu, and I'm back with someone I haven't seen in years.
0:19.9	We're going to have to catch up on
0:21.2	live on the podcast. And Tashi Slater, welcome. Welcome. Thank you so much, Raghu. It's such a
0:26.9	pleasure to be back. And, you know, it's been some time. So we'll refresh the audience about your work
0:34.7	as an author and journalist. and really, I mean, I follow your newsletter and so on,
0:44.3	and all the work that you've done around the Bardos, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, which
0:51.7	you'll get into give us a brief overview of.
0:56.0	And, but, you know, we have to start.
1:02.0	Anne's great-grandfather introduced the person who with the Rumpeshire Lama wrote this book.
1:15.8	And so he's a big part of this story.
1:19.8	So what fascinates me, Ann, is that this all got handed down and handed down in strange ways.
1:26.9	Here you are doing what you're doing with this.
1:30.3	Yeah.
1:30.6	Is that something you've thought about?
1:32.2	I do think about it.
1:33.6	I do think about it because it was back in the early 20th century that my great-grandfather met this editor and then give him a letter of introduction to this
1:45.5	Lama and Gang Talk in Sikkim in 1919. And I really love to think you about Evans Wenz.
1:50.6	Evans Wenz, right? Yeah. Yeah. And that my great-grandfather was a devout Buddhist,
1:59.6	and he was very much devoted to the Buddhist teachings and to the bardo Tudal to the Tibetan Book of the Dead.
2:05.0	Guru Rimpichet, who is said to be the, you know, to have composed the book of the dead.
2:11.4	And that it would, it mattered a lot to him to not only follow those teachings, but to spread them in any way he could.
2:20.8	And so I do think about that. I do think about that because here are all these years later,
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