This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive.

Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.

I am your host, Michael Covel.

Not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

I have to laugh to myself.

I hear that song.

I don't even think I really liked it when I first heard it growing up.

But now all these years later, a little quiet riot, a little bang your head.

A great way to open this particular two-part best of epic episode. I don't know why that particular song goes with these two men.

I don't know that it goes with these two men at all. I don't know if they're familiar with it,

and I'm sure they don't care. So I really don't know what the connection is, but nonetheless,

it's out there, at least in my mind, at least for right now.

There's no connection. I'm just in that mood. My guest today, reaching back into the archives,

Ed Sikota, Marty Bergen of Duncapital. I love the insight of these two men. These two men,

the way they think, the way they talk, if you can't learn something, if you can't get yourself

a step farther down the path than you currently are, let me give you a quick tip.

You should quit.

Turn off the social media.

Go get a job.

I mean, something that's really rudimentary, a really basic job that requires no skills, picking up trash,

something that just doesn't require any thinking. So if you can't pick something up from

...