The best gift I've ever received has to be a bike when I was younger, a pedal bike.

It was a sort of slick little road bike and I remember it was all like, it was so, it was all wrapped up,

it was so obvious what it was obviously because nothing shaped like a bike and I had a little ribbon on it and I was so

a guest. For that was a life changer and I'm still sort of big on cycling around my area now so, for that one change me a little.

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Okay, we've got a wonderful encouraging and lightning conversation for you today with Mr. Robert Woodson senior.

He is the founder of the Woodson Center, which was established in 1981, which focuses on helping grassroots faith base

and community organizations confront community problems and create sustainable solutions to community issues.

He has been a civil rights activist and advocating on behalf specifically of the black community and really countering a lot of the failed solutions that we have seen

from the left and the false narratives that we have seen from the left over the past few decades that have actually ended up just decimating the black community, hurting the very, the very people that these activists on the left say that they are aiming to help.

So he has done amazing work. He is motivated by his Christian faith, which you will hear and fuses all of the work that he does in 2020 his center launched the 1776 United campaign as a counter to the false 1619 project.

So we're going to talk about all of that today, the problems facing these communities, what we not just as Americans, but specifically as women as mothers can do to combat a lot of the division and the very real problems that are facing our children really children of all different backgrounds and how we can kind of just remove this.

This blinder that has been put in front of us of divisive racial rhetoric and false ideas about race and the history of race in America to see things as they are so we can enact effective solutions together you're going to love this conversation you're going to learn a lot and you're going to love him for sure.

And so without further ado, here is our new friend Mr. Robert Woodson senior.

Mr. Woodson, thank you so much for joining us. I know a lot of people are already familiar with you. They've been familiar with your work for a long time. Maybe they read your recent book or they see you on Fox news.

But for those who may not know, can you tell us who you are and what you do.

Yes, I am the founder and president of the Woodson Center for the last 40 years, the organ as a national not for profit headquarter in Washington. And we provide service to grassroots low income leaders in maybe 39 states about 2,500 and we assist them in developing self help programs to address poverty crime and violence from the inside out in the bottom up.

Prior to that, I was active in a civil rights movement and worked for the American Enterprise Institute for five years. But for the most part, my passion is helping low income people to develop strategies to uplift themselves from poverty.

Tell me a little bit about the difference in the programs that you guys support the policies that you advocate for the kind of self help strategies that you guys are employing versus the solutions that we often hear from the left to alleviate poverty and that we've really seen fail over at least the past 15 years.

How have you guys kind of set yourselves against those supposed solutions on the other side of the aisle?

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