Wow, Wow, Wes.

All right, we're live. We're live.

Buddy, Levy, thank you for coming.

It's Levy or Levy? It's Levy. Hell yeah, I got it right. Thank you for coming. Hey, my pleasure. Matt, thanks for you. I've been using your books to fuel the Patreon. And, well, thank you for that. I appreciate it, man. Dude, it's been, I mean, I guess we do have a symbiosis

going here, but it's really, dude, they're, they're, first of all, I thought like, you know, I read the books and I'm like, man, this is a story and really is a good writer. I would like read and I'm like, this guy can really kind of really turn a good sentence. And then I learned, you studied as a creative writer.

Yeah, that's true.

I actually published my first story when I was 14 years old.

And, And then I learned you studied as a creative writer. Yeah, that's true. I actually published my first story when I was 14 years old.

And it was a bird hunting story about me, you know, killing a chucker partridge, which no one knows about.

But, you know, once I saw my byline for the first time, I was, you know, because I grew up in this, in the shadow of Ernest Hemingway in Catcham, Idaho. And I was like, I just like telling stories, you know. And it was, so I, I wasn't ever good at anything else. I ended up being an English major. So I just followed that path, you know, from the time I was that's, well, that's why I really the books. And I was talking to you before we came in here. I was like, how did I, I don't know how I heard about the book. I was like, maybe it was from someone I follow. It might have just been like a random search. I genuinely don't remember. I do think it's from the Josh reads books thing, but I forget. That was Conquistador. but that was the thing i was reading it and i'm

like man this this history book is like it's just focused on the narrative itself rather than just

like it's just i get drowned in facts reading history where i'm like dude just tell me the story

tell me the story and then and then what you do is what's nice is you give the occasional

historical zinger

where it's like actually this thing was that and it's like okay it's kind of cool to know yeah i got to

say it was i got to tip the hat first foremost it was the books are great well and i've really

enjoyed listening to you guys um make things like human ritual sacrifice and smallpox funny

you know that that's uh you know because when i'm writing it, I'm thinking, you know, this isn't really comedy.

But you guys crush it.

There is something very funny about, you know, we're talking obviously about the, the Aztec, the conquistura thing.

But there is something just that I thought was funny about never

meeting a certain type of people before. Because the way they like brought them into their temples

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