Wow, Wow, Wes.

Hey, what's up?

What's all?

What's going on, everybody?

I'm already fumbling over my fucking words.

Dude, I suck.

I'm here with Kevin Ashton.

How you doing, man?

I'm good.

How are you?

Pretty good. So how would you define yourself? Obviously, author. Yeah. Futurist. Future. Old guy. you think you're old now oh god yeah what 57 57 i'm i'm not i'm behind. I'm 40. Oh, that's young. 40? I think 40 is going to. I still feel like a boy. Like there's never, the switch has never occurred to where I'm like, a little bit I feel like a man. I go in the grocery store. They're playing the music I danced to when I was a kid. Really? That's, that makes you feel old. Oh, when it's in the grocery store?

Yeah, it's like the muzac now. Yeah, yeah. That's kind of a cure or whatever. That was old when I was. So what was your, what was your music back in the day? What was your go-to? Oh, I was a jazz funk guy. Really? Yeah. Jazz funk. Like that it's like the it's a British name for like R&B, basically.

So like mid-80s, it was like Luther Vandross. Oh, you're a smooth brother. Oh, yeah. All the working class kids in London, that's what we're really. There you go. Nice. The posh kids like, you know, the punky stuff that we were. So I got to ask you then, is it true? because I have a friend who's from London and he loves soccer.

Okay.

And I, stuff but we're so I got to ask you then is it true because I have a friend who's from

London and he loves soccer okay and I I you know naturally and in America

soccer's looked at as a sport kind of for girls you know what I mean like not so much

now though yeah not so much but when I was trying to explain to him when I grew up it was like

we everyone played football.

That's what we call American football football. And I was like, you know, I was just kind of getting under his skin. I was like, it's kind of for like weak guys and he was like, no. And I was because I played rugby. He's like rugby's for the posh boys. That's true. And so it's true. Yeah. Rugby's such a more brutal sport. It's such a more brutal sport.

Why is it for the posh boys?

It's just the So it's true. Yeah. Rugby's such a more brutal sport.

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