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Proof: A True Crime Podcast

Ep. 6 - Pillow Talk

Proof: A True Crime Podcast

Red Marble Media

True Crime, Society & Culture

4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 April 2022

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

The gun, the bullets, and the pillow. Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis investigate the chain of custody and discover several missing links. Proof: A True Crime Podcast is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the Undisclosed Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s Evil Lives Here and Killer in Question,Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth,guilt and innocence. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more. Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. This Episode was sponsored by: Babbel US, Apostrophe, and Cerebral. Visit the Babbel website and get 65% off your subscription, and start learning a new language. Visit Apostrophe - your online dermatologist - and use code PROOF to get your dermatologist-crafted treatment plan for $5. Cerebral - Online depression, anxiety, insomnia treatment and medication delivered to you. Visit the website and use code PROOF for 65% off your first month of treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

So one thing I was really excited to get down the Floyd County for was to finally find out what the jurors believed in this case.

0:17.5

Like what was it that made the jurors convict Lee and King?

0:21.5

And I wanted to know how the jurors looked at this evidence and what they did to interpret it, put it together,

0:27.0

and piece together a story to convince them the Honorable Smilled out.

0:30.0

I am now a little concerned, I'm never going to get an answer to that question.

0:35.8

The jurors in this case, by and large, did not have difficulty in reaching a guilty verdict.

0:41.0

But as one juror told us, trying to entangle exactly why they'd reach that verdict might not be possible.

0:47.0

He told us that like it can get really crazy in the jury room.

0:50.0

When a trial happens, you can just, I think he said throw out the attorneys, throw out the judge,

0:55.0

none of that matters because you got 12 people in its liberation room who don't know what they're doing and going by their gut,

1:01.5

and you'll never know what's going to happen.

1:03.2

Yeah, he said it's definitely by the gut and not by the law.

1:07.2

And that whatever just happened in that courtroom, God knows what the jury is going to do with

1:11.1

it when they get alone. The jurors we spoke to

1:14.6

varied in how much they were called about this case. Some remember quite a bit,

1:18.8

others almost nothing. One of the jurors we spoke to allowed us to record and others agreed to talk to us but didn't want to be recorded.

1:27.0

My answer came to myself very early on when we were asked to deliberate. I knew early on what my decision was going to be.

1:37.0

You know, saying that they were guilty.

1:42.0

One juror, an older man... saying that they were guilty.

1:48.0

One juror, an older man who didn't deliberate came into the room and said, let's fry him, literally, let's lock him up and fry him,

1:52.0

you know, flip the switch, call the day.

1:53.6

And call the day.

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