There's a dart-like instrument that pierces her, and on the end of it is like a fire.

It looks like a fire. She says it's like a light.

And I started to read this, and at the same time I also read John Mack's book Abduction.

Almost every chapter in John Mack's book looks like something from the historical Catholic record. And so what I

decided to do, it's called redaction criticism, we call it that, is I wanted to check out all

the original sources. And so when I did that, I found some really interesting things.

Welcome back to Cosmosis. I'm your host, Jay Christopher King, joined as always by my co-host, Kelly Chase.

If you're new here, Cosmosis is a podcast that grew out of our docu-series, Cosmosis, UFOs, and the New Reality,

which is available now on Amazon Prime, Apple TV, Fandango at Home, and other streamers.

You can find links to all the platforms at cosmos.

This podcast is where we continue the conversation,

exploring the ideas, insights, and experiences

that are reshaping how we understand reality itself.

But don't worry, you don't need to have seen the show

to follow along with the podcast.

But if you like what you hear, we do hope

you'll check it out. Today's episode is a special one. We're honored to share a never-before-released

talk by Dr. Diana Walsh Posolka recorded live at the Inquirer Anomalous Conference in New York City

in December 2023, which I hosted and organized, along with James Ian Doley and Leslie Kane.

We're presenting it here for the first time, along with the live Q&A.

Diana is a professor of religious studies at the University of North Carolina Wilmington.

She's also the author of American Cosmic and Encounters, two groundbreaking books that explore the intersection of UFOs,

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