Well, and, you know, Ray, I was actually just reviewing one of our videos or one of our

TV programs that will be coming out soon. And you did run into it an elderly gentleman.

I think he was in the 70s on Huntington Beach Pier. And no, I meant, did you hear elderly?

Well, you misheard. Oh, yeah, you misheard. I said, uh, stealth.

Yours did. He was dead. He was dead. He was getting elderly.

Yeah, 1-11. That'll, uh, that'll make everybody feel young.

I found out what the record is for all this person, modern person, is 122.

Yeah, he's getting there. But the thing that I loved about how you handled it with him was

you did it very simply. And you said, well, where you believe the scientific and

possibility that nothing created everything. I mean, just that line alone has so much power packed

in it. And then he says, well, you know, I'm a meteor came crashed on the earth. And you said,

well, that's something, a meteor something that crashing on it on the earth is the earth is

something. Where did this, you know, so have you just found that to be hugely disarming? No.

Yes, of course. It's really, I absolutely love it when someone's is I'm an atheist because I know

the built their foundation on something that's just non-existent. It's not even weak. And when

you appeal to the common sense, it just comes tumbling down.

Our faithful listeners are very, very well aware of the fact that I have often mocked

Oscar Navarro for his coffee drinking hallucinations. But today we've reached an all new

low in which Oscar has lost all credibility because I thought, well, okay, he talks about

tasting some kind of fruit notes, watermelon and guava or strawberry, whatever. But today Oscar

has lost all credibility. I thought, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he does. But today Oscar said he

can tell the difference in the taste of water. I stand by that. I would say right now we can do

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