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Add a card to your Google wallet. Yes, yes, welcome in to another edition of the Tim McKernan show here on the InsideSTL podcast network from the

Home Loan Expert.com studios.

I am your host Tim McKernan alongside videographer Nick Yale and executive producer

John Seymour aka John Seymour, aka the Sea Monster.

So here is what happened with this interview.

It's never happened before.

Is my guest, former county executive Gene McNary began answering a question I began

banging my head on the council this really happened and I think about that and I

think okay this is this is a gentleman, an esteemed gentleman,

four-term St. Louis County executive, worked in Washington, D.C. under President George

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