The best gift I've ever received has to be a bike when I was younger, a pedal bike.

It was a sort of slick little road bike and I remember it was all like, it was so, it was all wrapped up,

it was so obvious what it was obviously because nothing's shaped like a bike and I had a little ribbon on it and I was so guest.

For that was a life changer and I'm still sort of big on cycling around my area now so for that one change me a little.

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Okay, today we are having a fascinating conversation with Pedro Gonzales. He is the associate editor of Chronicles magazine.

He is a writer. He does not describe himself as a journalist and you will hear him say why we are talking about Ukraine.

Pedro has been very courageous in asking some questions that are deemed controversial.

That you are not allowed to ask unless you want to be accused by the mainstream media of being a Putin puppet.

And yet he is asking these questions. He is going to talk to us about the history of Ukraine. He is going to talk to us about Zelinsky.

We are going to talk about some things that a lot of people just don't want to talk about, don't want to mention, don't want to dig into.

Because as we will discuss, you are only supposed to have one position when it comes to Ukraine and you cannot question the popular narrative.

Whereas you are unpatriotic. Now, as we've mentioned before, doesn't that line sound very familiar? If you're not for lockdowns, if you're not for Black Lives Matter burning down and looting cities, if you are not for kids having mandatory vaccines and masks when they are two years old,

then it's because you want people to die because you hate America. If you don't think that young kids should be chemically castrated in the state of Texas, if you don't think that teachers should be talking to five-year-olds about gender switching, it's because you want these people to die.

It's because you're a horrible person. And that's the same kind of line that we are hearing when it comes to Ukraine.

If you ask any questions at all about our involvement or the level of our involvement, you are accused of not caring about the Ukrainian people and of being pro-Putin. Of course, that's ridiculous.

So we're just going to buck that narrative because quite frankly, I don't believe that. I think as we discussed either last week or a couple of weeks ago, that you can hold comments and sympathies in your brain at the same time.

We should be able to do that as thoughtful people, especially as Christians, right? We should be able to say that what's happening in Ukraine to the Ukrainian people who are caught in the crossfire here, that's really bad.

We talked also about how there is a huge tra- there's always been a human trafficking problem in Ukraine. Of course, there's a problem throughout the world, but especially in Ukraine, it's kind of a hotbed for it.

Human trafficking, not just in the sense of sex trafficking, but also in the human trafficking of the corrupt surrogacy industry that is there. And so, Ukraine has been a hotbed of a corruption for a long time.

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