What's up everybody this is Scott Yeager here with another edition of Challenge Mania, but you didn't come for me. You came for D so on the line right now.

Papa Knight Mr. Derek Zinsky. What's up dude? Papa Knight. You're gonna have to explain that one for me. So Papa Knight is the opposite of Mama Day.

Wow, you got a lot of trouble for that Mama Day stuff bro. I didn't know. I honestly I do I do plead ignorance on not knowing she doesn't like to be called Mama Day because I watched her entire big brother season or the most recent one.

I think she was a returning player I think and they called her Mama Day the whole time. Paulie called her Mama Day although that might not be the best person to go off of but everyone called her Mama Day. I thought she called herself Mama Day turns out apparently she doesn't like the nickname so I apologize. So we will only refer to her as Dave on on the shoulder day folks by the way Nicole Ramos ladies and gentlemen will be joining us but before we get to Nicole. We should talk about the whole thing with Dave on stemming from the Sylvia episode real quick. I know we'll dive into it a little further when we go to Gemco.

When we go to Gemclass with Jimmy later this week because she chimed him chimed in on Twitter but we talked about it a little bit on our emergency Patreon podcast this past weekend. So if you want to hear that where we go about 30 minutes deep on it.

Go to patreon.com slash challenge mania but.

D your words were kind of twisted around on you I got out of a movie I would say a lovely movie called eighth grade I come out of the theater my Twitter's blowing up got Dave on call me out because you called her a bully in a loud mouth what happened dude.

Well I obviously think it was a major over reaction which is probably why she's you know on another season of another show on another reality show you know I mean that might get me in trouble too but I mean in reality like.

Do you need a shovel to dig yourself a little deeper here day you want to borrow this.

Come on that's why we all get put on these shows man is because we have this reverse acceptable to over reacting blowing up taking things out of proportion and you know it sounds like to me and I could be wrong and I know I know that you she played the tape to you and she still thought like you know that I was.

She tweeted a clip where you start off by saying I'm not calling Dave on a bully to prove that you called her a bully so I was a tad confused look we talked about this on the Patreon I don't blame Dave on I blame whoever listen to the podcast heard it assumably and it's entirety and thought I'm going to get Dave on worked up and let her know that they were calling her a bully because guys it's not even just the maniacs out there who had our back and thank you guys for all that if you heard the whole interview.

Cranth it's not Derek's most salient point it's not his most coherent point that he's made it might not be his most graceful segue but we start off talking about Dave on comments on her YouTube channel about Sylvia we talk about what might have caused those then meeting at the airport and whatnot and then we use that as a launching point for D to dive into some of his experiences on the show with people who choose to be louder on the show and people who choose not to be he wasn't talking about Dave.

He wasn't talking about Dave on he even said I'm not calling Dave on a bully he's talking about other people who play a louder game who maybe bully Sylvia then steps in and says maybe we don't use the word bully maybe we use it too much but regardless Derek who's never been on a show with Dave on is not talking about Dave on and to be honest with you he was more making a point about the game that someone like Sylvia chooses to play where they choose to not be louder and not necessarily be playing that type of bully yes game so look I get that it was not a

game that was all sort of in the realm of where we started by talking about Dave on I get that as I mentioned D sometimes you know you'll transition into a personal story which is what that is your role on the show a lot of people wonder that that's your role on the show you know my role on the show is to keep it moving on the radio host type guy I'm the podcaster on the challenge fan these the guy who has two decades of experience on the show guess what Dave on like it or not you've been on three episodes of the show where T

you're not taking this on a Tuesday you've been on three episodes Derek has been on 300 episodes so we're talking about his experience with other people on the challenge all be it we did maybe segue into that a little quick for you're liking or some of the listeners liking who thought that we maybe we're still talking about Dave on but of course you know she had in the tweets you said I didn't know you were on this season or you weren't on the season of course he has no he cannot speak to personal experience with Dave on he's never work with her on the show but just to clear the

you guys if you're listening to this you guys all heard that episode so you realize that is not the intent I said it I'm team gave on I'd love to have around the show I loved her on Big Brother my wife Lindsey loved loved loved her on Big Brother when she got brought back in she was so excited she was like on Devon she's the best I love her when she found out she was gonna be on the challenge she was excited I was excited too we would love to have her on challenge Mania not just to clear the air on this but to hear her thoughts on being a first time challenger in the comparisons between the Big Brother House and the

challenge House or redemption House however you want to slice it but we had to get that out of the way I know you're still a little salty about it you think it was weak sense I told I did I said it was weak I said it was weak sauce I said I said send it into us weekly it was weeks I mean I listen to the clip you know I really listen to it sound I'm I'm weary of like you know putting people down and you know I just I have a thing against people that shit on other people you know and I'm

maybe playing the fence with that because I kind of do play doubles advocate both ways and kind of lean you know in certain direction sometimes but um but for the most part I really have a thing against people putting other people down and I have dealt with it you know since I was a kid you know I mean I was always you know I'm 100% Polish so for a long time you know the dumb Polish jokes came out and as a kid like you don't understand it

like people are calling me my family my you know my upbringing dumb you know so like I have a thing against that stuff you know so when I see it when I hear it I tend to you know flock to rescue the quieter ones you know the ones that don't have voice if you're calling someone if your perception of someone is weak because they're quiet or are they weak because they're a lot of people are

follower um you know as the game proceeds right now for a lot of these challengers is you if the quieter you are right now the the further you may get along in the game but the louder you are right now early on in the game is it it's going to hurt you I feel like so I'm still interested if you can sway Devon to come on the podcast Scott

you know the Devon fans you know that can that that want I don't have that I'm going to be able to sway day I'm not going to lock okay I don't know I don't know you know shout out to all the Devon fans that you know made this argument this debate you know come up you know shout out to you then shout out to all the Derek challenge maniacs that came out and backed me up on all this but I'm still you know I stand you know by like my stance of when I relist into it

it sounded it sounded like I don't know you covered your bases you we started off yes talking about Devon we then

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