But the courage to follow your heart and intuition, they somehow already know what you truly want to become.

I can't even make this up, he starts walking, I draw back, and he's down, he's right there.

Welcome to the podcast, how have you been, man?

I'm great brother, how are you?

Good, good, good.

Dude, it's been a long time and we were talking before the podcast, and it's been way too long since we did a podcast.

And I remember, I specifically remember I was driving to my truck and I was messaging you, and I was so stoked to get you on the podcast.

It was like one of my first, it was like a big podcast, and I was stoked to have you on.

And I remember like kind of just talking to you, and I was like, this dude is a straight killer, he has killed more deer than I'll probably have ever seen in my life.

And so I was stoked, and that was a very, very long time ago, and we were kind of joking how you were saying I look old and I told you it was because I had kids, but yeah, it's been a hot man, how you been?

I have a lot more gray, they call it wisdom hair.

I think I'm in my auto now, and kids definitely have, you know, have a way of being the best thing that ever happened with God's greatest gift, but you know, your ultimate test as well.

So I feel your brother.

I do, that's where it's the hardest thing I've ever done.

I've done a lot of hard shit in my life, but like kids, kids is hard, no joke.

That was the first time you found out, you know, your wife's pregnant, and you're like, oh my God, I can't even fucking take care of myself.

How am I going to take care of a little wife?

I like about how to panic attack.

I didn't know if I was excited or scared to death, but now I couldn't imagine anything any other way.

It just happened to be like a dad.

Yeah, it's great, it's been good.

Yeah, I feel like, you know, everyone's, so we just had our second in this July, and it's, I always laugh because people are like, oh they have their baby and their first one's hard.

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