Ep. 575 – Poetic Spaces and the Creative Process with Joseph Goldstein & Noah Markus
Mindrolling with Raghu Markus
Be Here Now Network
4.7 • 543 Ratings
🗓️ 3 January 2025
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
Noah and Raghu Markus catch up with Joseph Goldstein to talk about poetry, imposter syndrome, trust, and more.
Grab a copy of Joseph’s poems and reflections HERE
In this episode, Raghu, Joseph, and Noah connect through these topics:
- How Joseph revitalized his poetic spirit while traveling in Spain
- Revision as the most important process of writing
- Struggling with imposter syndrome
- How poetry overlaps the meditative space
- Silence as an integral precursor to creativity
- The beauty within very ordinary experiences
- How aversion traps us just as much as desire
- Compassion as the activity of emptiness
- Loneliness and the myth of intimacy
- Building trust and self-confidence
- Artistic versus scientific ways of understanding
- Anger as a messenger and using wise discernment
Be sure to check out this talk on quantum mechanics, as suggested by Joseph in today’s episode.
About Joseph Goldstein:
Joseph Goldstein has been leading insight and loving-kindness meditation retreats worldwide since 1974. He is a co-founder of the Insight Meditation Society in Barre, Massachusetts, where he is one of the organization’s guiding teachers. In 1989, together with several other teachers and students of insight meditation, he helped establish the Barre Center for Buddhist Studies.
“A lot of creativity comes out of the silence because then it’s more intuitive rather than thinking through something. It’s that overlap that I really love. I can be in a quiet space and a very ordinary perception of something takes on more meaning because I’m not just rushing through it, I’m actually there in it.” – Joseph Goldstein
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everyone back with mind rolling. |
| 0:16.5 | And this is a very special little group that we have. |
| 0:22.4 | And I'm happy to welcome both Noah Marcus |
| 0:25.3 | and Joseph Goldstein, Joseph, Noah. |
| 0:28.5 | Yes. |
| 0:31.5 | We were just playing around before getting on live. |
| 0:37.0 | And yeah, we're gonna talk about this wonderful book. |
| 0:41.4 | I bet a lot of people, Joseph, don't know about your poetry book. |
| 0:45.8 | Well, I think quite a few do, because we've done IMF online anyway, |
| 0:52.2 | you know, programs. |
| 0:53.2 | But I don't think it has to the reach of this podcast. |
| 0:59.4 | But we were, Joseph, Noah said, well, it would be great if you did it. |
| 1:04.6 | You know, read a couple of poems, you know, it'd be wonderful. |
| 1:07.3 | And that's when you said, well, no, no, it's a poet. I have a little, |
| 1:12.6 | I have a little bit of imposter syndrome going on. And Noah said, I can throw myself in that group |
| 1:20.2 | easily. And of course, we all can. But I, so it led me to think about it. And I've told this |
| 1:26.0 | story before, but it's, if you haven't heard it, Joseph. |
| 1:30.0 | I haven't heard it. |
| 1:31.2 | Yeah, we'll see. |
| 1:31.9 | So Christian Duss went to join Rommdas at his swim, you know, that he used to do every Monday in Maui. |
| 1:40.9 | So he got there. |
| 1:42.4 | And he sees Rambdas in his car looking like sour, very unusual for Ram Dass at all. |
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