Ep. 570 - How to Grow a Forest Pt. 2
In Defense of Plants Podcast
In Defense of Plants
4.8 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 22 March 2026
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Successful forest regeneration projects require lots of different skill sets. This is especially true when trying to finance operations that work for local communities. Luckily people like Jonathan Kim of Terraformation are up for the challenge. Join us as we learn how skills outside of the biological sciences are helping make native forest regeneration successful. This episode was produced in part by Kim, Tanya, Neil, Matthew, April, Dana, Lilith, Sanza, Eva, Yellowroot, Wisewren, Nadia, Heidi, Blake, Josh, Laure, R.J., Carly, Lucia, Dana, Sarah, Lauren, Strych Mind, Linda, Sylvan, Austin, Sarah, Ethan, Elle, Steve, Cassie, Chuck, Aaron, Gillian, Abi, Rich, Shad, Maddie, Owen, Linda, Alana, Sigma, Max, Richard, Maia, Rens, David, Robert, Thomas, Valerie, Joan, Mohsin Kazmi Photography, Cathy, Simon, Nick, Paul, Charis, EJ, Laura, Sung, NOK, Stephen, Heidi, Kristin, Luke, Sea, Shannon, Thomas, Will, Jamie, Waverly, Brent, Tanner, Rick, Kazys, Dorothy, Katherine, Emily, Theo, Nichole, Paul, Karen, Randi, Caelan, Tom, Don, Susan, Corbin, Keena, Robin, Peter, Whitney, Kenned, Margaret, Daniel, Karen, David, Earl, Jocelyn, Gary, Krysta, Elizabeth, Southern California Carnivorous Plant Enthusiasts, Pattypollinators, Peter, Judson, Ella, Alex, Dan, Pamela, Peter, Andrea, Nathan, Karyn, Michelle, Jillian, Chellie, Linda, Laura, Miz Holly, Christie, Carlos, Paleo Fern, Levi, Sylvia, Lanny, Ben, Lily, Craig, Sarah, Lor, Monika, Brandon, Jeremy, Suzanne, Kristina, Christine, Silas, Michael, Aristia, Felicidad, Lauren, Danielle, Allie, Jeffrey, Amanda, Tommy, Marcel, C Leigh, Karma, Shelby, Christopher, Alvin, Arek, Chellie, Dani, Paul, Dani, Tara, Elly, Colleen, Natalie, Nathan, Ario, Laura, Cari, Margaret, Mary, Connor, Nathan, Jan, Jerome, Brian, Azomonas, Ellie, University Greens, Joseph, Melody, Patricia, Matthew, Garrett, John, Ashley, Cathrine, Melvin, OrangeJulian, Porter, Jules, Griff, Joan, Megan, Marabeth, Les, Ali, Southside Plants, Keiko, Robert, Bryce, Wilma, Amanda, Helen, Mikey, Michelle, German, Joerg, Cathy, Tate, Steve, Kae, Carole, Mr. Keith Santner, Lynn, Aaron, Sara, Kenned, Brett, Jocelyn, Ethan, Sheryl, Runaway Goldfish, Ryan, Chris, Alana, Rachel, Joanna, Lori, Paul, Griff, Matthew, Bobby, Vaibhav, Steven, Joseph, Brandon, Liam, Hall, Jared, Brandon, Christina, Carly, Kazys, Stephen, Katherine, Manny, doeg, Daniel, Tim, Philip, Tim, Lisa, Brodie, Bendix, Irene, holly, Sara, and Margie.
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| 0:21.5 | It explores a lot of really fun gardening topics, everything from seed collection and storage to growing native |
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| 0:36.7 | at patreon.com slash indefensive plants and help keep this show up and running in the process. I hope to see you over there. But in the meantime, on with the show. Hello everyone and welcome to the Indefensible Plants podcast, the official podcast of Indefensibleplants.com. What's up? This is your host, Matt. Welcome to the show. How is everyone doing this week? We are keeping the terra formation ball rolling in this episode by thinking about things a little bit differently. |
| 1:00.3 | Joining us is Chief Sustainability Officer and VP of Climate Impact Jonathan Kim. |
| 1:05.2 | Jonathan provides us with a perfect example of something I say time and time again on this podcast, and that is you don't need to be |
| 1:11.3 | a botanist and ecologist or any kind of specific professional to have a role in helping fix |
| 1:16.7 | native ecologies wherever you live. Jonathan has turned his tech and journalism skill sets towards |
| 1:21.9 | making native reforestation projects work and work in a really important way. I don't want to |
| 1:27.3 | steal any of us |
| 1:27.9 | thunder, but make sure you listen in to how you can get involved because this is all about |
| 1:31.8 | individual action. So let's just jump right into it. Without further ado, here's my conversation |
| 1:36.4 | with Jonathan Kim. welcome to the podcast. It is so great to have you here. Let's start off with an introduction. Tell everyone a little bit about who you are and what it is you do. |
| 2:06.7 | Thanks for having me, Matt. So I'm Jonathan Kim and I lead the climate impact team here at Terraformation. So we are the team that works with our corporate partners, large NGOs, philanthropies. |
| 2:14.6 | And really, you know, our job as a team is to understand what their impact they want to |
| 2:19.3 | have on the climate is. What are their goals, right? Is it around protecting biodiversity? Is it around, |
| 2:24.6 | you know, reaching some sort of public commitment? Is it about, you know, human equities in different |
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