I think that the holidays feel like frozen noses. I love walking with the dog for long periods of time.

Hopefully it's snowing and you've got to wrap up warm. So I think a frozen nose is

then sweaty armpits because like you're wrapped up so warm but then you're climbing hamps

and heath and you get to the top and you're like and then you can see the breath

but then your nose is still freezing to touch.

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Okay guys I am so excited about today's episode. We have Ian Miller. If that name sounds familiar to you. It's because every time we have talked about masks we cite the grass that he creates using

the public publicly available and accessible data about masking and vaccine passports and if they have actually had any effect whatsoever on case counter even death counts or anything not just in America American cities and American states but also abroad.

He has been so useful to me in understanding in understanding the data and understanding how these policies have affected covid case counts spoiler alert they really have it and so that's what we're going to discuss today we're going to talk about the data how he compiles this where he is getting his information he recently

wrote a book which is a best seller on Amazon which is awesome and it is called unmasked the global failure of covid mask mandates I'm also going to put some links in the description of this episode because we've talked about this several times I hate how mask mandates have so have so disproportionately negatively affected children because children are necessarily compliant they have to listen to adults who

have an authority over them in whom they're supposed to trust and that has really broken my heart especially to see the hypocrisy of the politicians that are putting these rules in place and have imposed them upon kids while they are not even these politicians are not even following the rules themselves it just drives me mad and I'm not coming from an ideological position on this I am coming from a data driven perspective on the

there's no data there's no science that supports mask mandates are universal masking there just isn't especially not for kids especially not for kids and so we're going to talk about that today with Ian this is going to be an awesome

but like I said I'm going to include those links in the description of this episode the several studies that are some of them are 20 years old that show that masks don't mitigate the spread of this type of virus I put a blog post together together several months ago that compiles links to all of these different kinds of studies I'm going to include a couple articles that dig into the CDC studies that purportedly show that masks work

and these articles reveal that the data doesn't actually prove that and so we're going to get into all of that today too you guys I know we're going to love this episode Ian is super insightful on this subject so without further ado here's our new friend Ian Miller

Ian thank you so much for joining us can you first tell everyone who you are and what you you

yeah so I have been on Twitter mostly and then started the sub stack last year writing about you know the failure of mask mandates and a lot of other COVID policy in general and so that that became kind of a thing for me starting in mid 2020 I would say just tracking the information track in the data

and putting in these annotations on what we did and when and what were the results afterwards and how did this start for you are you a political person or you someone who reads data for a living why did you decide to start charting this

yeah I did some like data management analysis and stuff and for the day my day job and so that was I had some background in it and I personally wanted to see it I wanted to see the results

you know I live in California so a few places on earth have been more dedicated to COVID interventions in the city of California especially Los Angeles so you know I kind of was seeing in 2020 you know L.A. is a California we're doing all these things we're closing everything we have mask mandates everywhere what's been the impact is it working and so it was it's a lot of this information it's it's a very easy to find it's all publicly available it's you can download it yourself from the CDC or the New York Times or Johns Hopkins and so I just went through and and started

downloading all the data for a lot of different locations and you know people would reach out to me and say could you put something together for Chicago or for New York or for Philadelphia or anything like that so I realize there's a lot of people looking for this and it just kind of became something I would do consistently to try to just download the data put these annotations in here's with the policy and here's what happened afterwards and yeah

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