Hey, do badders. Well, what can we say about the next interview? We just finished it. I've just finished it now. And we talk a lot about the pain cave and what it's like to go in there. And we also answer a lot of your questions. The other things that popped out that I thought were quite interesting were, well, firstly what it's like in the cave, but then one

story where Courtney went blind towards the end of a race or near, near blind and still

finished it and talking about that experience, which was pretty crazy. And how even with her

experience, there's different races where her food and nutrition will just change

dramatically, particularly in 200-mile plus races. So I hope you enjoy it, guys.

They're bad, their boys, and occasionally they talk about running. Yes, it's the bad Boy Running Podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford, and David Heller.

Come back.

Baby, come back.

But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

I must admit I was a clown to be messing around.

But that doesn't mean that you have to leave town.

So deep badders, we normally do a big intro to explain who the next interviewer is.

It's Courtney.

You don't need to.

Everyone knows Courtney.

So it's Courtney.

Bye.

How you doing?

I'm great.

How are you?

It's so fun to see you.

Yeah, it's, I think we first recorded about six years ago, maybe,

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