You're listening to reading glasses, a show about book culture and literary life designed to help you read better.

I'm writer, filmmaker, and book devour, Mallory O'Mara.

And I'm Brea Grant, actress filmmaker in e-reader. This episode we're talking

about true-crime books and interviewing author and investigative journalist

Billy Jensen. But first... What are you reading Bria? Oh I just started

a space opera. Oh nice! What are you reading, Brio? Oh, nice.

The Catherine Valente book.

It's shocking, I haven't read this yet because I'm a fan of hers and has to do space and it's amazing it's

incredible I just started it people have described it as like Eurovision in

space so and for someone so I know Nava Wolf talked about Space Opera a little bit on the show that we had around.

But your vision is basically like a song contest?

Song contest.

For every country like comes up with a song? Well not country like planet. Oh I mean in like real life.

Oh oh oh I actually don't know much about whatever your vision is either I was gonna say

people have just describing it as that but it means nothing to me because I don't really understand.

Like American Idol, but world Idol.

Yeah, I guess, but this is like gonna be like universe Idol.

Yes, so it's like various weird.

And the stakes are higher.

Yes, the stakes are very high in this book.

I don't know how much to give away, but yeah, I mean, yeah, the stakes are very high

if you don't win, if you don't, if you're not one of the top people.

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