This is Hemet and Jessica and you're listening to the friendly atheist podcast please go to patreon.com slash friendly atheist podcast to support this show get access to bonus episodes and ad free episodes.

And Jessica, you're not actually here right now.

I am not.

I am currently in beautiful Southern Illinois.

And so for this week, we're not going to do

our regular type of episode, but I'm going to share with you an

interview I recently did with April Ajoy, who is the author of a new book called Star Spangled

Jesus, leaving Christian nationalism and finding a true faith.

I hope you enjoy it.

April A Joy is a hilarious content creator and podcast host who shines a light on harmful

toxic and sometimes just weird traits of American evangelicalism. She grew up as an evangelist kid steeped in Christian

nationalism and she worked in conservative Christian media. That's where she saw the

harm of those ideologies firsthand.

She's still a Christian today, but she uses her platform to expose the dangers of Christian nationalism

while promoting a more inclusive version and vision of the faith.

I'm so excited to have her here.

April, hi, how are you?

And let me show everyone your fantastic book right here, Star Spangled Jesus. How are you doing?

And for those who don't know you as well, can you tell everyone about yourself? And I don't hear you because of something.

Oh, that's because I had my own mic muted.

There we go.

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